Keto for muscle growth? Debate vs. Mike Israetel

What’s the optimal carbohydrate intake for maximum muscle growth? Abel Csabai hosted a debate between Mike Israetel and me about the feasibility of ketogenic diets and low carbohydrate diets in general for muscle growth. I always enjoy discussions with Mike. He’s exceptionally witty.

1:37 – How much does the ratio of carbs/fats matter once protein and calories are set? – Mike’s take

6:53 – Menno’s take on the same question

12:11 – Menno addresses ketogenic diets for muscle hypertrophy training

15:07 – Mike’s take on keto diets for muscle building

23:10 – Menno reflects on Mike’s points (insulin, glycogen, etc)

32:30 – Mike responds to the issue of drug use in bodybuilding & high carb preference

37:26 – Menno talks whether fats are more fattening than carbs in a calorie surplus

42:40 – Mike’s final comments on Menno’s take

45:15 – Where you can find these guys